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Issue 20, Page 35

Issue 20, Page 35

on Wednesday, November 6, 2019
Chapter: #20: the sovereign
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  1. Nobody
    Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 12:17 am | # | Reply

    So being part of a whole is nothing?

    • TCDD
      Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 1:14 am | # | Reply

      If one does not appreciate what it means to be whole and individual.

    • TCDD
      Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 1:26 am | # | Reply

      To put it another way, to be whole is to be individual.

    • Wu Wei
      Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 1:55 am | # | Reply

      I think it’s more about whether a cog in the machine is nothing? The Black Idol clearly doesn’t think she is literaly nothing. It wants her knowledge, her biomass, etc. And Julia obviously isn’t saying that she is worthless either.

      But she *is* saying that she considers herself to be worth nothing, if she ends up as just part of the idol. It’s about the fallacies of composition/division. She has values that are different from those of the Idol, and those specific values tell her that she becomes nothing if she is absorbed into it, but worth something apart from it. Being a tool of the system is not the same as steering the ship.

      And why shouldn’t she think this? To be alive is to be in conflict, to struggle, and the Black Mass actually embodies this as much as anything. From what we know, the God of Flesh is a mass-murdering, black-hearted machine. What better death than for its “children”, the species spawned from the Idol, to collectively decide to turn their back on it, and seal it beneath an eternity of disregard? There are other “wholes” to be a part of, without being some kind of recapitulation of the Borg.

      • Nobody
        Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:58 pm | # | Reply

        To be alive is to be in harmony.

  2. TCDD
    Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 1:17 am | # | Reply

    The one is many and the many are one.

  3. Treascair
    Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 8:40 am | # | Reply

    Oh, now that’s intriguing… the Idol’s needing to actually consider *its own* nonexistence…

  4. gyrre
    Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:02 am | # | Reply

    And she’s got the key!

  5. lupinesentinel
    Thursday, November 7, 2019, 4:46 pm | # | Reply

    cogito ergo sum

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